. >> people were telling me she has papers under her bet, in her house. part of what i tell is a gradual process by which i gained access to those materials. >> host: how did you do that? >> guest: it took time. >> host: they were valuable. >> guest: that was part of it. when the bill -- the young guest. i am sari. the youngest son decided he wanted to bring them all together and put them up for auction. at that point* the question became what will happen with the papers in the home? then i would go through the materials. they were extremely rich opening a whole new dimension about martin the third king but dealing with his life as a minister. you could find out what he was thinking about putting together his sermons, and his library, when he was reading, in the basement of ago through his materials, handwritten notes. >> host: was it in longhand? >> guest: yes. for example, i have a yellow pad that he wrote out the draft of the speech of the nobel peace prize. when i first saw that, my heart stopped because first of all, who have a sense the last person